Adrienne Truscott: [as far as my understanding; bear out; deterrent] Yeah, shockingly 32 of our 50 States still have the death penalty and as far as my understanding, it's never borne out to prove that it is a deterrent to a violent crime and in fact all of the states that have get rid of the death penalty experience lower rates of violent crime. So how it remains in a civilized society as a way to deal with that or an attempt to solve the problem of violent crime seems ridiculous and, I know, in America if often plays out in the media as a sort of form of retribution and that it is sort of delivering some sort of closure to the families of the victim. I mean, and it is often that the victim's family is often invited to witness it which is an entirely barbaric state of affairs. So, yes, I wish that Australia would take as much interest and opposition to what we are doing in America as they do in Indonesia.
Jessica Abboud: [chimpanzees; self-aware; discriminate] If we are going to give chimpanzees certain rights for being intelligent, self-aware and emotionally complex, does that lack of qualities in other animals then mean that they are going to be discriminated against. Who will be their lawyers?
a thing that makes sb less likely to do sth; that deters them;
a small intelligent African ape.